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		<title>By: AngoraBreeder</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-47446</link>
		<dc:creator>AngoraBreeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all of you making uneducated comments, including, so far, all of the angora (pet) owners:

There are many varieties of Angora rabbits.  Some are the molting variety, and some are non-molting.  Non-molting varieties (Germans, German-hybrids, some English lines and recently, some French lines) MUST BE SHEARED!   They may not be plucked, as their wool does not release.  The only other option is to feed them a depilatory drug (similar to those used in chemotherapy), which I feel is outrageous.  And before you suggest that we eliminate the non-molting varieties to get rid of this &#039;cruelty&#039;:  it has been shown that matting and wool-block are due, in the majority, to molting.  My non-molting Germans and German/hybrids do not have excessive matts, and do not suffer from excessive wool in their digestion.

Angoras must be plucked or sheared regularly to prevent wool-block and/or heat stroke, both of which are fatal.  Also, an Angora in full coat eats less food, so allowing one to remain in full coat could potentially lead to long-term malnutrition.  An Angora in full coat is often unable to reach it&#039;s back-end.  This is important because rabbits produce, from their back ends, cecotropes, which are critical to their nutrition.  An Angora that cannot eat it&#039;s cecotropes will eventually die.  In addition, an Angora that is unable to reach it&#039;s back end for cleaning will become vulnerable to fly-strike, where flys lay their eggs on the rabbit, and it becomes infested with maggots, eating it alive.  Finally, an angora who is not sheared or at the least, groomed, can become so entangled in it&#039;s own matts that it is no longer able to hop.

As far as shearing a rabbit, I have some that are completely cooperative,  even laying calmly on their backs while I scissor away.  I have others that are calm except when it comes time to do their underside, and I have others that won&#039;t sit still for a grooming, let alone the HOURS it takes to do scissor shearing.  This has nothing to do with how well socialized they are.  Each of my Angoras is socialized, and allowed out to exercise.  I groom them every couple of weeks, whether they need it or not (usually not), just to keep them used to it.

I would love one of these pieces of equipment.  It would allow me to cut my shearing time down from 6 hours (with breaks for bunny and me) to less than 20 minutes.  It would prevent the rabbit from struggling when it is on it&#039;s back, thus lessening the potential for spinal injuries (rabbits have surprisingly fragile spines). Finally, it would give me more control over the shearing process, making nicks and cuts very unlikely.

For those of you with one or two bunnies who use them for spinning or other fiber arts, it is wonderful that you have the time to spend with your rabbits, and are able to groom them daily.  This is entirely unreasonable for even a small commercial operation, and, despite their &#039;cuteness,&#039;  Angoras are intended as an agricultural animal, not a pet breed.  

For those of you who contend that we should allow the Angora breed to go extinct, and not use animal fibers at all...well...it&#039;s not going to happen any time in the foreseeable future.  Sorry. 

I would much rather use animal fibers for warmth (Angora is 8-10x warmer than wool, and relatively non-itchy in comparison), than the chemical soups used to create synthetic fibers.  And, to my knowledge, there are no plant fibers that can even begin to compare to the warmth and water resistance of the animal fibers.  So, if you want to go through a  New England winter with cotton as the only barrier between you and the elements, be my guest.  I&#039;ll be wearing my Angora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of you making uneducated comments, including, so far, all of the angora (pet) owners:</p>
<p>There are many varieties of Angora rabbits.  Some are the molting variety, and some are non-molting.  Non-molting varieties (Germans, German-hybrids, some English lines and recently, some French lines) MUST BE SHEARED!   They may not be plucked, as their wool does not release.  The only other option is to feed them a depilatory drug (similar to those used in chemotherapy), which I feel is outrageous.  And before you suggest that we eliminate the non-molting varieties to get rid of this &#8216;cruelty&#8217;:  it has been shown that matting and wool-block are due, in the majority, to molting.  My non-molting Germans and German/hybrids do not have excessive matts, and do not suffer from excessive wool in their digestion.</p>
<p>Angoras must be plucked or sheared regularly to prevent wool-block and/or heat stroke, both of which are fatal.  Also, an Angora in full coat eats less food, so allowing one to remain in full coat could potentially lead to long-term malnutrition.  An Angora in full coat is often unable to reach it&#8217;s back-end.  This is important because rabbits produce, from their back ends, cecotropes, which are critical to their nutrition.  An Angora that cannot eat it&#8217;s cecotropes will eventually die.  In addition, an Angora that is unable to reach it&#8217;s back end for cleaning will become vulnerable to fly-strike, where flys lay their eggs on the rabbit, and it becomes infested with maggots, eating it alive.  Finally, an angora who is not sheared or at the least, groomed, can become so entangled in it&#8217;s own matts that it is no longer able to hop.</p>
<p>As far as shearing a rabbit, I have some that are completely cooperative,  even laying calmly on their backs while I scissor away.  I have others that are calm except when it comes time to do their underside, and I have others that won&#8217;t sit still for a grooming, let alone the HOURS it takes to do scissor shearing.  This has nothing to do with how well socialized they are.  Each of my Angoras is socialized, and allowed out to exercise.  I groom them every couple of weeks, whether they need it or not (usually not), just to keep them used to it.</p>
<p>I would love one of these pieces of equipment.  It would allow me to cut my shearing time down from 6 hours (with breaks for bunny and me) to less than 20 minutes.  It would prevent the rabbit from struggling when it is on it&#8217;s back, thus lessening the potential for spinal injuries (rabbits have surprisingly fragile spines). Finally, it would give me more control over the shearing process, making nicks and cuts very unlikely.</p>
<p>For those of you with one or two bunnies who use them for spinning or other fiber arts, it is wonderful that you have the time to spend with your rabbits, and are able to groom them daily.  This is entirely unreasonable for even a small commercial operation, and, despite their &#8216;cuteness,&#8217;  Angoras are intended as an agricultural animal, not a pet breed.  </p>
<p>For those of you who contend that we should allow the Angora breed to go extinct, and not use animal fibers at all&#8230;well&#8230;it&#8217;s not going to happen any time in the foreseeable future.  Sorry. </p>
<p>I would much rather use animal fibers for warmth (Angora is 8-10x warmer than wool, and relatively non-itchy in comparison), than the chemical soups used to create synthetic fibers.  And, to my knowledge, there are no plant fibers that can even begin to compare to the warmth and water resistance of the animal fibers.  So, if you want to go through a  New England winter with cotton as the only barrier between you and the elements, be my guest.  I&#8217;ll be wearing my Angora.</p>
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		<title>By: lynn</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-46113</link>
		<dc:creator>lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the wool needs to be removed to keep the animal healthy, however an angora has several layers growing at the same time. The longest wool becomes loose and sheds naturally. If you groomregularly and &quot;pluck&quot; the loose wool off it does not hurt, scare or abuse the animal. The bonus is top quality wool that does not have the short pieces mixed with it. Rabbit skin is delicate and is cut easily. By plucking you need not worry about injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the wool needs to be removed to keep the animal healthy, however an angora has several layers growing at the same time. The longest wool becomes loose and sheds naturally. If you groomregularly and &#8220;pluck&#8221; the loose wool off it does not hurt, scare or abuse the animal. The bonus is top quality wool that does not have the short pieces mixed with it. Rabbit skin is delicate and is cut easily. By plucking you need not worry about injury.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-45045</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 2 Angora rabbits and use them for wool. They LOVE to be brushed and cliped, but I have to say, I don&#039;t do it like this!! This looks a bit on the mean side. May want to take this pic down, or PETA may haunt you FOREVER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 2 Angora rabbits and use them for wool. They LOVE to be brushed and cliped, but I have to say, I don&#8217;t do it like this!! This looks a bit on the mean side. May want to take this pic down, or PETA may haunt you FOREVER!</p>
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		<title>By: FiberFiend</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-44610</link>
		<dc:creator>FiberFiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have several Angora rabbits and am currently a year away from receiving my LVT, and I can tell you with upmost certainty that Angoras can easily be sheared without strapping them down, and I agree that this method of harvesting their wool is shocking and cruel.  

Yes, Angoras need to be sheared or plucked 3 or 4 times a year, however this can easily be achieved by simply letting the rabbit lay on a table or in your lap.  Shearing alone poses a risk of injury; plucking, however, is simply pulling tufts of already loose fur out of the rabbit&#039;s coat, which does not harm the animal at all, nor poses any uncomfort.  However, rabbits are extremely delicate animals, and by tying them up as such just to shear them, they could easily dislocate or break a limb, or worse.

I currently own a 1 and a half year old French Angora who still has all the energy he had when I first got him at 8 weeks.  With a few treats and some much deserved forehead-rubs, even he lays calmly on a table while he receives his haircuts.

Yes, there is much animal cruelty in our world today, however, my point in this reply is simply to, hopefully, let everyone know that there are easier, humane ways to harvest an Angora&#039;s wool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have several Angora rabbits and am currently a year away from receiving my LVT, and I can tell you with upmost certainty that Angoras can easily be sheared without strapping them down, and I agree that this method of harvesting their wool is shocking and cruel.  </p>
<p>Yes, Angoras need to be sheared or plucked 3 or 4 times a year, however this can easily be achieved by simply letting the rabbit lay on a table or in your lap.  Shearing alone poses a risk of injury; plucking, however, is simply pulling tufts of already loose fur out of the rabbit&#8217;s coat, which does not harm the animal at all, nor poses any uncomfort.  However, rabbits are extremely delicate animals, and by tying them up as such just to shear them, they could easily dislocate or break a limb, or worse.</p>
<p>I currently own a 1 and a half year old French Angora who still has all the energy he had when I first got him at 8 weeks.  With a few treats and some much deserved forehead-rubs, even he lays calmly on a table while he receives his haircuts.</p>
<p>Yes, there is much animal cruelty in our world today, however, my point in this reply is simply to, hopefully, let everyone know that there are easier, humane ways to harvest an Angora&#8217;s wool.</p>
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		<title>By: Eirinn</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-44013</link>
		<dc:creator>Eirinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astounded at the naivete of those of you who think you are all-intelligent and all-compassionate about the well being of these animals.  So it is true these animals (sheep, rabbits, goats, etc) have been bred to have more fiber and wool to supply us with necessary fabric but did you ever consider how cruel it would be to leave the fiber on them?  I dare you to wear your winter clothing- hat, gloves, boots, clothing and coat in the heat of the summer.  Would you enjoy that?  I wouldn&#039;t guess so.  Also, to those of you who are crying cruelty about the people who tether their bunnies to shear, did you know that if that wasn&#039;t done it is a possibility the bunny could panic and break its own back?  Even though it looks barbaric it is for the animal&#039;s safety and I can just bet the animal feels a heck of a lot better naked.  Make sure if you say you are educated, you are so.  And if you say if you are compassionate, be so.  Honestly people!  If you want to stand for a cause, make sure it is a cause that needs support... go after the breeders who don&#039;t correctly handle their animals, the owners who neglect their animals, who abuse their animals, who don&#039;t correctly care for their animals.  Let us be for education and empowerment, as well as empathy and support.  Not yelling and complaining because others may have a different purpose than you do.  We each play a part.  Which part are you, what is your purpose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astounded at the naivete of those of you who think you are all-intelligent and all-compassionate about the well being of these animals.  So it is true these animals (sheep, rabbits, goats, etc) have been bred to have more fiber and wool to supply us with necessary fabric but did you ever consider how cruel it would be to leave the fiber on them?  I dare you to wear your winter clothing- hat, gloves, boots, clothing and coat in the heat of the summer.  Would you enjoy that?  I wouldn&#8217;t guess so.  Also, to those of you who are crying cruelty about the people who tether their bunnies to shear, did you know that if that wasn&#8217;t done it is a possibility the bunny could panic and break its own back?  Even though it looks barbaric it is for the animal&#8217;s safety and I can just bet the animal feels a heck of a lot better naked.  Make sure if you say you are educated, you are so.  And if you say if you are compassionate, be so.  Honestly people!  If you want to stand for a cause, make sure it is a cause that needs support&#8230; go after the breeders who don&#8217;t correctly handle their animals, the owners who neglect their animals, who abuse their animals, who don&#8217;t correctly care for their animals.  Let us be for education and empowerment, as well as empathy and support.  Not yelling and complaining because others may have a different purpose than you do.  We each play a part.  Which part are you, what is your purpose?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-42604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this video does a better job of explaining the process than the posted picture. After watching this, I felt that the rabbits in question were being treated very well. The picture is quite shocking,  but the process is really much more humane than it looks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4Z2PJZ21Y

However, if you prefer to hand shear, then this video may be a better resource.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Ba5e9qf

Regards,

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this video does a better job of explaining the process than the posted picture. After watching this, I felt that the rabbits in question were being treated very well. The picture is quite shocking,  but the process is really much more humane than it looks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4Z2PJZ21Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4Z2PJZ21Y</a></p>
<p>However, if you prefer to hand shear, then this video may be a better resource.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Ba5e9qf" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Ba5e9qf</a></p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-42249</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the best read i have had in a long time.  Some very funny ideas there. But what next - distressed cows from milking, emotionally scared chickens from egg thefts, The horror of bug breeding for chickens food.  Come on - have a look in Nature - most predators are not worried about killing their prey before eating it! By advice use things in their rawest form - unprocessed milk, fruits, fish, vegetables and hay just skin the rabbit and wear it!  Pick on people who are cruel to animals - shearing a rabbit give me a break - where are you from, a city in the USA - go live on a farm if you really care - then you may find yourself getting the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the best read i have had in a long time.  Some very funny ideas there. But what next &#8211; distressed cows from milking, emotionally scared chickens from egg thefts, The horror of bug breeding for chickens food.  Come on &#8211; have a look in Nature &#8211; most predators are not worried about killing their prey before eating it! By advice use things in their rawest form &#8211; unprocessed milk, fruits, fish, vegetables and hay just skin the rabbit and wear it!  Pick on people who are cruel to animals &#8211; shearing a rabbit give me a break &#8211; where are you from, a city in the USA &#8211; go live on a farm if you really care &#8211; then you may find yourself getting the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-40503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shearing is obviously cruel.  It distresses the rabbit, and I&#039;m sure no shearer can say they have never nicked a rabbit while shearing.  (I certainly nick myself while shaving enough!)  To alleviate the problem of matting, the fur could be pulled out by hand, or in more severe cases, cut carefully with scissors.  Why are they sheared?  Because Angora rabbits are an industry.  The people at the Shearing Shed need all the hair they can get off their rabbits, so they use the method that gets the most hair off the rabbit.  They want the quickest, most effective method- not the best method for the rabbit

But I my argument is not that the rabbits should not be sheared, but that people should not use them for their purposes at all.  Angora rabbits only exist because there are consumers who are willing to buy animal products.  If this market did not exist, humans would not have bred rabbits with such excessive fur that needs such intense care.  There would be no problem with animal cruelty!

Animal cruelty is not part of the &quot;natural progression&quot; of life.  Yes, I am a consumer, but a compassionate, educated one.  I understand that someone slaughters the pig that becomes the bacon in my supermarket, and that is why I do not buy it.

To Cassandra:  No, it&#039;s not ok to shear a sheep.  They have it even worse off than the rabbits!

To Mia:  No, I do not own any items with leather, feathers, or wool.
I agree there is no magic dust to make the use of animals completely cruelty free... so let&#039;s stop using animals!!

And on an unrelated note, To Jpo: not everyone uses the American spelling of &quot;organization!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shearing is obviously cruel.  It distresses the rabbit, and I&#8217;m sure no shearer can say they have never nicked a rabbit while shearing.  (I certainly nick myself while shaving enough!)  To alleviate the problem of matting, the fur could be pulled out by hand, or in more severe cases, cut carefully with scissors.  Why are they sheared?  Because Angora rabbits are an industry.  The people at the Shearing Shed need all the hair they can get off their rabbits, so they use the method that gets the most hair off the rabbit.  They want the quickest, most effective method- not the best method for the rabbit</p>
<p>But I my argument is not that the rabbits should not be sheared, but that people should not use them for their purposes at all.  Angora rabbits only exist because there are consumers who are willing to buy animal products.  If this market did not exist, humans would not have bred rabbits with such excessive fur that needs such intense care.  There would be no problem with animal cruelty!</p>
<p>Animal cruelty is not part of the &#8220;natural progression&#8221; of life.  Yes, I am a consumer, but a compassionate, educated one.  I understand that someone slaughters the pig that becomes the bacon in my supermarket, and that is why I do not buy it.</p>
<p>To Cassandra:  No, it&#8217;s not ok to shear a sheep.  They have it even worse off than the rabbits!</p>
<p>To Mia:  No, I do not own any items with leather, feathers, or wool.<br />
I agree there is no magic dust to make the use of animals completely cruelty free&#8230; so let&#8217;s stop using animals!!</p>
<p>And on an unrelated note, To Jpo: not everyone uses the American spelling of &#8220;organization!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-40449</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much you wanna bet that the ppl saying shearing rabbits is cruel are vegetarians?? 

I had an angora rabbit and he had so many mats, I wish I could of sheared him. Since it&#039;s getting to be summer, I&#039;m sure they&#039;re more comfortable without all that wool on. Imagine wearing a wool coat in the summer, then you&#039;ll be in their shoes. 

The picture looks scary because the rabbit is all curled up, not necessarily because he&#039;s in pain. I&#039;m sure being tied up is uncomfortable, but dying of heat stroke is even worse. 

See what I&#039;m saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much you wanna bet that the ppl saying shearing rabbits is cruel are vegetarians?? </p>
<p>I had an angora rabbit and he had so many mats, I wish I could of sheared him. Since it&#8217;s getting to be summer, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re more comfortable without all that wool on. Imagine wearing a wool coat in the summer, then you&#8217;ll be in their shoes. </p>
<p>The picture looks scary because the rabbit is all curled up, not necessarily because he&#8217;s in pain. I&#8217;m sure being tied up is uncomfortable, but dying of heat stroke is even worse. </p>
<p>See what I&#8217;m saying?</p>
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		<title>By: ny</title>
		<link>http://juliation.net/blog/?p=36&#038;cpage=1#comment-40385</link>
		<dc:creator>ny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to everyone who&#039;s been freaking out over a rabbit being shaved:

you use shampoo?? soap? nail polish? wear leather, eat rice, eat food??? all these things are made and processed WITH HUNDREDS OF  ANIMALS DYING IN THE PROCESS. Many cosmetics use animal by-pass products or derived products, many products use animals as testing subjects ( about 90% of the industry) where they basically torture animals just to make YOUR everyday products &#039;people friendly&#039;. So before you start bashing a rabbit being shaved (and forgetting if you dont shave or clip them the hair becomes matted and painful for the rabbit), remember you are participating in a much more gruesome role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to everyone who&#8217;s been freaking out over a rabbit being shaved:</p>
<p>you use shampoo?? soap? nail polish? wear leather, eat rice, eat food??? all these things are made and processed WITH HUNDREDS OF  ANIMALS DYING IN THE PROCESS. Many cosmetics use animal by-pass products or derived products, many products use animals as testing subjects ( about 90% of the industry) where they basically torture animals just to make YOUR everyday products &#8216;people friendly&#8217;. So before you start bashing a rabbit being shaved (and forgetting if you dont shave or clip them the hair becomes matted and painful for the rabbit), remember you are participating in a much more gruesome role.</p>
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